Everyone knows how powerful the masking tools are in the ON1 photo editing software apps, but they are getting even better with a new technology we’ve been working on, Sky Swap AI. Watch a sneak peek of this amazing technology that makes masking and replacing boring skies a snap. This and much more coming in the next major release of ON1 Photo RAW.
ON1 Insider – A Sneak Peek at Sky Swap AI
August 13, 2021 • 16735 Views • Posted by Dan Harlacher
39 comments on “ON1 Insider – A Sneak Peek at Sky Swap AI”
On August 13, 2021 at 9:03 am steve Des Georges wrote:
Is this available now
On August 13, 2021 at 9:16 am Patrick Smith replied:
Not yet, but will be this fall.
On August 13, 2021 at 9:09 am Robin Hatton wrote:
That is going to save a lot of time. Looking forward to fall and all the new technology
On August 13, 2021 at 9:26 am Brian Bochicchio wrote:
Looks like a really nice implementation with good control. *high-five*
Hopefully, unlike brand L, you won’t be able to look at someone’s image and instantly tell they used that sky tool.
On August 13, 2021 at 9:51 am Jacques wrote:
How about a video with sky swap that includes water reflection?
On August 13, 2021 at 9:59 am Patrick Smith replied:
In time. 🙂
On September 1, 2021 at 11:36 pm Scott Dunham replied:
Does that mean it’s still a work in progress?
On August 13, 2021 at 10:07 am Manfred Ambros replied:
Luminar AI can’t do it either
Greetings from Munich
On August 13, 2021 at 10:01 am Alan Waibel wrote:
You need a similar tool for portraits. In my studio, I would like to use an 18% gray background during the photo session. Then later in ON1 I’d like to change the background color and intensity. If there are stray hairs, those hairs need to stay and not be cut off unless they are so bad as to be distracting (it should be my choice). In most cases, today’s AI in the masking tool doesn’t allow the background between the stray hairs to change colors. This makes the background 2 tone. I’d be very happy to talk to someone and provide more detail.
On August 13, 2021 at 11:15 am Petr Krenzelok replied:
I would like to have multiple color selections at one effect layer, so that you can more precisely define gradients ….
On August 13, 2021 at 7:43 pm Benedict Yee replied:
I am interested to have this feature implemented for studio. I may have a white or green or gray backdrop and if Sky Swap AI has a color picker feature, it can also be used to automatically replace the backdrop or any background instead of just sky.
On August 13, 2021 at 9:53 pm Petr Krenzelok replied:
Yes, we do studio a lot. White bg replacement in On1 was our daily bread, before we started to build a real scenes. But then we also have a party studio and use a green screen. We used a PhotoKey, but it was discontinued. Would like to get green screen removal in one click, including a green casts / reflections on subjects, so called green spill removal.
On August 14, 2021 at 12:29 am Christian Berger replied:
this would be the one feature luminar and others don’t provide… if you implement bg replacement (not just sky) in one click it would be a massive timesaver in some projects!!!
On August 13, 2021 at 10:07 am Petr Krenzelok wrote:
What I would expect from the AI tool is relighting and blending of the whole scene not just a sky replacement. When you hovered over the different skies, it did not look like something like that is happening?
But – I can see the “Foreground” section there, so hopefully it is still possible to do manually without much effort? Looking forward to some more videos. Looks promissing and auto-masking the sky and tree looks phenomenal 🙂
On August 14, 2021 at 12:27 am Christian Berger replied:
+1 or rather +1000 🙂
On August 23, 2021 at 4:57 pm Mike Miller replied:
Really replying to one of your side notes, above.
While FXhome discontinued Photokey, their Imerge software does allow you to batch key or real-time key with a tethered camera (and Imerge allows end to end RAW workflow, unlike Photokey).
I’m a beta tester and brand Ambassador for FXhome so I’m “obligated” to point that out. Obviously I’m a Photo RAW user as well, and am looking forward to trying this new sky swap tool.
On September 1, 2021 at 9:24 pm marc labro replied:
hello,
YES !
I like the way luminar AI applies the sky tones over the whole scene without any risk of halo.
See also the serge ramelli tutorial i mention below using a “reflected” version of sky and blneding them on whole scene without any halo.
On August 13, 2021 at 10:14 am Adam Davis wrote:
Nice enough, but unfortunately like others you’ve got yourself obsessed with editing tools. The best photo is the one we can find! Asset Management is where focus is needed, especially as this’ll elevate you above your competitors. Such a ridiculous situation that still no one has caught up with Aperture in this area.
On August 13, 2021 at 10:18 am Patrick Smith replied:
We will also have a bunch of improvements in that area as well.
On September 1, 2021 at 4:30 pm Walter Holt replied:
Totally agree. I still miss Aperture for this reason alone.
On September 1, 2021 at 6:42 pm André Marshall replied:
Completely agree. I liked On1 but that’s the reason I went back to Lightroom for better asset management
On August 13, 2021 at 1:30 pm Gary Stanley wrote:
Looking forward to the new version. Have been using Luminar AI for sky replacement, and hopefully can dump it because it’s so slow!+
On August 17, 2021 at 7:27 am Vincent Oliver replied:
and I thought it was my computer that was slow. Yes, Luminar is far too slow to be of any use for quick edits and making small adjustments. I look forward to what ON1 will offer, although I suspect it will be ON1 2022 edition – and no doubt at a price.
On August 13, 2021 at 1:39 pm Alessandro Scuderi wrote:
I have Luminar AI (and of course On1 2021) to replace sky, but this had more refinement in the masking and maybe it is better.
I wait the new On1 PhotoRaw 2022 this fall and expect to have the new sky replacement and On1 nonoise included; this 2 are good improvement and made no necessary other software…..
Thank you!
On August 13, 2021 at 1:54 pm Aaron Perkinson wrote:
Looks great. The automatic mask did a nice job!
On August 13, 2021 at 8:10 pm John Koski wrote:
Looks amazing! Sky replacement, integrated NoNoise AI, and improvements in asset management… I can’t wait for fall.
Thank you.
On August 14, 2021 at 12:43 am marc labro wrote:
looks great.
I have luminar ai (and of course ON1) and i confirm it is so slow and so different raw develop from lightroom, local tools are bad, destructive,… so happy ON1 goes that way.
However, even if a true sky replacement is nice to have, I would be happy to have “accent ai” and “enhance sky” features in ON1.
These LAI filters are amazing and at a level much higher than standard sliders in develop module. They add contrast, vibrance, exposure in an intelligent way on the whole image (it makes me think about the old amazing topaz adjust with regions).
These two filters don’t remplace raw develop other sliders as Skylum thinks and add a secon level of retouching.
On August 14, 2021 at 3:18 am Gilbert Sauve wrote:
I’ve noticed the mask around the tree and between branches is incomplete so one would need to refine it manually as is the case with the current version. Would it work better with a totally blue sky?
On August 14, 2021 at 4:57 am marc labro wrote:
there are situations where selections are hard to do.
there is a simple method serge ramelli (see link below) describes and which is very useful.
Is ON1 able to do that process ? :
– position sky
– duplicate the sky and flip vertically
– merge two skies layers
– select old sky and inverse selection
– gaussian blur of foreground so we keep the tone and remove clouds,…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntqc-hlYSa8
On August 14, 2021 at 9:48 pm marc labro replied:
forgot to tell merged sky is set to MULTIPLY blend mode
before we blur the clouds,… appering on foreground.
On August 14, 2021 at 5:28 am Robert Montgomery wrote:
Looks phenomenal!
You “guys” really put the pandemic time to good use! 😉 Great new ideas popping out all over. First a killer new AI approach to noise, now this.
ON1 PR 2022 is looking to be totally amazing, VERY well done!
On August 14, 2021 at 1:57 pm Ronald Lashley wrote:
This looks pretty good but I would suggest that you add a horizontal shift slider. This is needed so clouds can be moved to better position behind the subject.
On August 15, 2021 at 1:55 am marc labro wrote:
hello,
Any chance to have a new gradient map filter in ON1 PR2022 like Photoshop one ?
very powerful for color grading and deep dramatic B&W.
On August 15, 2021 at 11:02 pm Roger Garlin wrote:
Looks great! Can’t wait for it to be ready!
On August 16, 2021 at 2:15 am Russell Webb wrote:
So releasing sometime in Autumn? That runs from middle Sept to middle Dec.
So when will the new version be available please, beginning, middle or end?
Thanks.
On August 17, 2021 at 10:19 am Gal Steinberg wrote:
This is great! I would love to just easily be able to apply a Sky mask for my own sky! and then apply it to all skies in a certain series –
this seems like it can do it!
On August 23, 2021 at 4:59 pm Mike Miller wrote:
Literally minutes before checking this out I was lamenting to someone about how So-Cali is almost always faded, smoggy and cloudless, and how lucky I was regarding the shoot under discussion there were actually clouds and sky texture that day.
Lookin’ forward to trying this out!
On September 1, 2021 at 3:26 pm Paul Scicluna wrote:
I’ve been waiting for this to happen for a long time looking forward to using it keep up the good work
On September 2, 2021 at 10:05 am David Hyre wrote:
I love that this is really kind of like two tools in one panel – an automatic sky-mask generator, plus an easy layer / swap / replace / tweak editor. Truly the best of both worlds since we have access to that mask, allowing us to fix those times when AI isn’t so “I”. LAI has worked passably for me in many cases, but is painfully slow on a strong rig, and doesn’t give many options when it goes brainless and fails.
I also love how ON1 takes a fresh look at how to do things and comes up with a better way, and keeps pumping out big improvements in how to edit pictures – it makes for a fun ride as an ON1 supporter over the years (6 & counting for me). Plus with the familiar faces & voices of Dan, Dylan, etc and the fact that you’re only a 3-hour drive from me, it kinda feels like supporting the home team! 🙂 <3
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